neil: what happens, environmentists say, at what harm to our environment. i have seen fracking and how it is done, it is remarkable, they keep it all in place, they are not turning the land upside down. they are not making a ples of it and i -- a mess of it i think there is a perception of fracking or drilling that might have been true, a few decades ago, but it is just, young now young now, is the industry making a mistake not explaining it better or environmentals not giving it a chance. >> environmentalists are not even giving it a chance, there is no question that our environmental saved guards here in united states and canada are strongest than in the world. better in terms of offshore china or russia or anywhere element when the environment 8 ofs say we're not going to produce here. and we're going to force the country rely on imports, we're experts the environmental pollution, and making it worse overall. neil: where does this end up? if you are ireland and you are looking for more oil or any one of these countries, like you said at beginning, we ben